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Post by David on Oct 5, 2009 23:44:45 GMT -5
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Post by Marc Loiselle on Oct 6, 2009 2:04:00 GMT -5
dudes a jackass human reality show based on ridiculous drama produced by a drunk moron (a one person "real world" if you will). libertarian or not (which I doubt), he's become poison. this guy is the worst of the worst.
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Post by Jason Marr! on Oct 6, 2009 8:10:14 GMT -5
yeah he is an idiot.
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Post by Justin on Oct 25, 2009 9:47:12 GMT -5
I know fucking hate Muse. Really? You ask somebody to retract a statement saying you like their music because they have a different political stance. Thats so goddamn ignorant. Fuck them. And Fuck you... they were once a good band but not anymore!
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Post by Josh Talo on Oct 25, 2009 11:06:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I think that was pretty shitty of Muse. Beck's a tool, but he's entitled to say what he wants.
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Post by David on Oct 25, 2009 15:33:26 GMT -5
So yeah, it wasn't nice for Muse to do that, but it's Glen Beck! My god, the man lies to America on a nightly basis. Maybe he's not as bad as Rush, but shit, I wouldn't want that piece of shit supporting my music. You've got to have some conviction; you've got to draw the line somewhere. Muse is trying not to sell out and abandon their morals for money from advertising that they do not support. If you hate them or are mad at them for that, you've got your priorities all mixed up.
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Post by Scott Nelson on Oct 26, 2009 8:47:08 GMT -5
I'm with David on this one. How can you say that it's ignorant to not want to get lumped in with the views and beliefs of someone? I think it's a noble deed in today's times when everyone is so god-damned complacent. What if it was the member of the KKK or something ridiculous like that who said that about Muse? I know that's a bit more extreme, but at the base it's just a difference in social-political stances. It's exactly what David said: You've got to have some conviction.
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Post by boheraldbass on Oct 26, 2009 12:20:32 GMT -5
Ben Weinman from the Dillinger Escape Plan once said that you cannot choose your fans. You just do your job and people may pick up on it along the way.
I knew a TURBO Republican that loved Fugazi. These things happen.
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Post by Matt Radick on Oct 26, 2009 20:56:51 GMT -5
Hmm. Tough issue. I think I like what Muse did. There's a difference between choosing your fans and choosing how you want to be publicly represented. Muse obviously cant tell Beck to not like their music, but I think it was good of them to tell him they don't want his endorsement publicly. If I there them, I wouldn't want my fans to think we in turn supported him or that if you like us you should watch Glen Beck. Well played, Muse.
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Post by Hunter Thomison on Oct 27, 2009 17:37:30 GMT -5
THIS IS HILARIOUS.
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Post by boheraldchris on Feb 22, 2010 13:23:56 GMT -5
I'm with my band mate. Bands needn't care about who supports them. It's up to the band to make the music, and for the fans to dissect it and classify it. Go and make whatever music comes out best, and let the fans decide what genre it is and what your lyrics mean and what your stance is in the world. Music is just music.
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Post by David on Mar 4, 2010 13:26:52 GMT -5
Saying music is just music, is denying any responsibility one has as a musician. Unless your a nihilist, then you have a responsibility for what happens to what you've created.
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Post by David again on Mar 4, 2010 13:28:47 GMT -5
I meant that to be like this:
Saying music is just music, is denying any responsibility one has as a musician, unless your a nihilist. You have a responsibility for what happens to what you've created.
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Post by boheraldchris on Mar 5, 2010 10:03:31 GMT -5
Why is it your responsibility if an event out of your control that is completely isolated from any probabilities regarding your 'self' occurs? If an arrogant political-fanatic publicly endorses your music, why worry about what people will think? If fans decide not to like your band because a certain Glenn Beck likes you, then those fans can suck some armadillo cocks because they weren't true fans in the first place.
Look at it this way: I love the Deftones. They are one of my favorite bands. Their singer, Chino Moreno, is amazing. But the man has sang with Dance Gavin Dance, Sevendust, and KoRn, among others. Should I reprimand him because he endorses KoRn, a band I despise? No. He is allowed to like what he wants.
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Post by David on Mar 5, 2010 22:26:06 GMT -5
You're looking too far into the negative of this. Muse isn't getting at Beck because he makes bad music, they're doing it because he's a powerfully blind political figure. They were standing up for what they believe in. To me, that's what music is about. If you disagree, fine, but it has nothing to do with taste, this is about believing in something, and standing up for that something.
If you create art, may it be a painting or a song, since you've created that work, you started whatever shock waves may come from it. Art is powerful, and it directly, and indirectly can affect so much and so many. Again, if you disagree that's fine, but I'm still glad to see Muse take some initiative and stand up for what they believe to be right.
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